The most successful Pyramnid scheme is of course AMWAY
Thats the longest running MLM con
Before i go to the scheme heres a great article on Pyramid schemes from
http://money.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-scheme1.htm
What is a Pyramid Scheme?
The main characteristic of a pyramid scheme is that participants only make money by recruiting more members. There are many different kinds of pyramid schemes, but the two most basic are product-based and so-called naked pyramid schemes.
In a naked pyramid scheme, no product is sold. Here's how it works:
One person recruits 10 other people to participate in a "no-fail investment opportunity."
The 10 recruits each pay the recruiter $100.
The recruiter now tells them to go out and recruit 10 more people to do the same.
If each recruit is successful, they'll all end up with $900 in profit from a $100 investment.
pyramid scheme illustration
Pyramid schemes quickly become unsustainable.
Sounds simple enough, but here's the problem: Let's say the initial 10 recruits each find 10 more people. Those 100 new recruits will have to find 10 recruits each to make $900. That means they have to find 1,000 people willing to sign up for the program. And if they somehow find 1,000 people, that next level of the pyramid will need to sign up 10,000 to make a profit. Eventually, there won't be enough recruits at the bottom of the pyramid to support the level above it. That's when the pyramid topples and everyone at the bottom loses their investment.
A product-based pyramid scheme is the same concept disguised as a legitimate direct sales opportunity. Here's how it works:
A distributor recruits 10 salespeople who each pay $500 for a starter kit of products to sell.
The distributor gets 10 percent of each starter kit that's sold.
The distributor also gets 10 percent of each product that any of his recruits sells, including more starter kits.
The recruits are told that the fastest way to make money isn't by selling products, but by recruiting more people to buy starter kits.
The people at the top of the pyramid get commissions from everyone in their downline, the many levels of recruits below them on the pyramid.
The problem with most product-based pyramid schemes is that the products themselves don't sell very well, or have very slim profit margins. So the only way to make money is to find more recruits. Eventually (and surprisingly quickly), the market becomes saturated. There are too many people trying to sell the same unattractive product and there's no one left to be recruited.
It's mathematically impossible for everyone to make money in a pyramid scheme. For example, if each recruit needs to find 10 more people to recoup the cost of his or her initial investment, the eighth level of the pyramid would have to recruit a billion people to make back their money. And the next level would need 10 billion, nearly twice the population of the Earth.
Studies show that in a naked pyramid scheme, 90.4 percent of people lose their money, while in product-based pyramid schemes, that number jumps to a shocking 99.88 percent
Heres some info from the TVi website FAQ page
1. How much does it cost?
The cost to join TVI Express is USD 250 if paid using prepaid vouchers and is USD 275 if paid by Liberty Reserve or Credit Card. It's a one time out of the pocket expense for a lifetime membership and does not include any recurring charges.
Mynote So you shell out 1000 rs to get in and then to get your 10000 rs back you have to get in two persons with 10000 rs each
2. How fast can I get started after I sign up?
Instantly. You immediately receive your membership backoffice and one click access to all various booking and search engines to start planning your next holiday. You also receive your very own Marketing Package and a self replicating website to start promoting the TVI Express Opportunity and build your way to the financial freedom.
3. Do I need to sell any products?
No. You don’t need to sell any products. TVI Express is a unique e-commerce opportunity allowing you to build the Business around the globe sitting at your home. However, we do support leaders who take initiatives to promote the opportunity offline conducting seminars and workshops about the Opportunity.
my note this is the classic sign of a pyramid scheme .......if you can make money selling the scheme instead of selling a good or a service its a pyramid /mlm scheme
4. Is there a recurring cost or monthly membership payment?
No. There is no monthly payment. Your one-time payment to join TVI Express entitles you to have lifetime access to our upcoming promotional deals, programs and campaigns.
5. What do I need to do to cycle out of the boards?
The first thing you need to do is sponsor two (2) people who join the TVI Express Opportunity. This will qualify you to cycle out of the boards as you progress ahead in the Compensation plan. Secondly, you need to encourage and teach those two downlines (people you sponsored) to sponsor more people and duplicate the process. Following these two simple steps will have you making money even while you sleep
My note Cycling out is a way for this paticular MLM /Pyramid scheme unwitting or willing accomplice to get out of the con with his principal intact
The cash flow if i may call it that is beautiful
The first person pays 10000 to get in he then needs 2 more persons to pay 1000 rs each total 20000 get his 10000 rs back (if at all he gets it back ) he probably will
so if the bakra gets 2 more bakras the cash flow is 20000 rs in 10000 rs plus something called eVoucher worth $250 what an evoucher worth rs 250 $ really gets you is not mentioned
6. Is there any limit on the times I can cycle out of the Express board and earn $ 10,000 each time.
No. There is no limit on cycles. You can earn as much as you want by cycling out multiple times, giving you an opportunity to create ongoing Residual income with each milestone you cross.
7. What is Residual Income? How is it different from Board payouts?
Residual Income ensures that you earn money on every sale in your organization enabling you to earn thousands of dollars with growth of your network. It is different from the Board payouts and gets activated as soon as you cycle out of the Express (2nd) board. With growth of your network, not only you will cycle in boards and earn payouts but will also earn a certain percentage of amount on every person joining your worldwide team. The Compensation plan has been designed keeping in mind the long term growth opportunities, with fast income at every step.
My note that ensures that the person who got out with his principal keeps recruting more people to increase his "network"
8. Is there any capping limit on Residual Income?
No capping, no ceiling and no time boundations. You can earn unlimited amount of income and the matrix structure pays till infinity allowing you to enhance your income every coming week.
9. Can I sponsor more than two people?
To qualify and earn commissions, you need to sponsor two people. However, if you want to progress fast and create multiple legs to ensure faster cycles and enhanced residual income from multiple legs, we do urge you to sponsor as many people as you can and support them at the same time.
10. What do I receive when I cycle?
You get the following commissions after you cycle out of the respective boards :
1) Traveller board : You receive $500 ($250 cash + an eVoucher worth $250)
2) Express Board : You receive $10,000 and a re-entry into the Express Board
Notice how in this long fag they have rarely mentioned what services they are actually selling
There are no details about the holidays the airfares the hotels nothing
All thats hammered in is you make more money if you get in more people
Tuesday, 19 April 2011
Saturday, 16 April 2011
First Call India Equity Advisers Pvt Ltd Violate SEBI rules ...... wonder if SEBI will act
When you are the promoter of a listed company and also are "Offering private equity
advisory and investment banking services" the least you are expected to do is NOT write a equity reserach report advising the general public to go out and buy your own company
But that is Exactly what First Call India Equity Advisers Pvt Ltd did ......
Heres the shareholding of Firstobject Technology a company where Firstcall are as of march 2010 shown as promoters
FIRSTOBJECT TECHNOLOGIES LTD.
Scrip Code : 532379 Quarter ending : March 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category :
"Promoter and Promoter Group"
Sl.
No. Name of the Shareholder Total Shares held Shares pledged or otherwise encumbered
Number As a % of
grand total
(A)+(B)+(C) Number % of Total shares held As a % of
grand total
(A)+(B)+(C)
1 J S Surya Narayana 90,500 0.47 -
2 Dr Vivek Hebbar 45,491 0.24 -
3 First Call India Equity Advisers Pvt Ltd 2,495,576 13.03
Sindhuri Finance Leasing & Investment Ltd 12,000 0.06 -
Total 2,643,567 13.81 -
Now heres a link to the research report
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news_html_files/news_attachment/2010/FirstObject%20-%20firstcall.pdf
Cached link
1 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&num=100&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&q=cache:AE1DRupTUMoJ:http://www.dailybust.com/pdf-files/microsoft-word-firstobject-technologies-ltd-detailed-report-with+%22http%3A//www.moneycontrol.com/news_html_files/news_attachment/2010/FirstObject%2520-%2520firstcall.pdf%22&ct=clnk
2 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&num=100&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&q=cache:OXSSgqlxNgAJ:http://www.pdf4me.net/pdf-data/indian-multibaggers.php+%22http%3A//www.moneycontrol.com/news_html_files/news_attachment/2010/FirstObject%2520-%2520firstcall.pdf%22&ct=clnk
Notice the date of the report
19th January, 2010
heres the standard disclaimer
Disclaimer:
This document prepared by our research analysts does not constitute an offer or solicitation for the purchase
or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. The information contained
herein is from publicly available data or other sources believed to be reliable but we do not represent that it
is accurate or complete and it should not be relied on as such.Firstcall India Equity Advisors Pvt.Ltd. or any of
it’s affiliates shall not be in any way responsible for any loss or damage that may arise to any person from
any inadvertent error in the information contained in this report. This document is provide for assistance only
and is not intended to be and must not alone be taken as the basis for an investment decision.
Notice that in such a large document not once did it mention that it is the promoter of the company its advising a buy on
Till march end 2010 Firstcall owned 12.6 of Firstobject and there they are advisisng investors to go buy their own company
Now if that isnt crooked and deceptive practise what is?
advisory and investment banking services" the least you are expected to do is NOT write a equity reserach report advising the general public to go out and buy your own company
But that is Exactly what First Call India Equity Advisers Pvt Ltd did ......
Heres the shareholding of Firstobject Technology a company where Firstcall are as of march 2010 shown as promoters
FIRSTOBJECT TECHNOLOGIES LTD.
Scrip Code : 532379 Quarter ending : March 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category :
"Promoter and Promoter Group"
Sl.
No. Name of the Shareholder Total Shares held Shares pledged or otherwise encumbered
Number As a % of
grand total
(A)+(B)+(C) Number % of Total shares held As a % of
grand total
(A)+(B)+(C)
1 J S Surya Narayana 90,500 0.47 -
2 Dr Vivek Hebbar 45,491 0.24 -
3 First Call India Equity Advisers Pvt Ltd 2,495,576 13.03
Sindhuri Finance Leasing & Investment Ltd 12,000 0.06 -
Total 2,643,567 13.81 -
Now heres a link to the research report
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news_html_files/news_attachment/2010/FirstObject%20-%20firstcall.pdf
Cached link
1 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&num=100&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&q=cache:AE1DRupTUMoJ:http://www.dailybust.com/pdf-files/microsoft-word-firstobject-technologies-ltd-detailed-report-with+%22http%3A//www.moneycontrol.com/news_html_files/news_attachment/2010/FirstObject%2520-%2520firstcall.pdf%22&ct=clnk
2 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&num=100&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&q=cache:OXSSgqlxNgAJ:http://www.pdf4me.net/pdf-data/indian-multibaggers.php+%22http%3A//www.moneycontrol.com/news_html_files/news_attachment/2010/FirstObject%2520-%2520firstcall.pdf%22&ct=clnk
Notice the date of the report
19th January, 2010
heres the standard disclaimer
Disclaimer:
This document prepared by our research analysts does not constitute an offer or solicitation for the purchase
or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. The information contained
herein is from publicly available data or other sources believed to be reliable but we do not represent that it
is accurate or complete and it should not be relied on as such.Firstcall India Equity Advisors Pvt.Ltd. or any of
it’s affiliates shall not be in any way responsible for any loss or damage that may arise to any person from
any inadvertent error in the information contained in this report. This document is provide for assistance only
and is not intended to be and must not alone be taken as the basis for an investment decision.
Notice that in such a large document not once did it mention that it is the promoter of the company its advising a buy on
Till march end 2010 Firstcall owned 12.6 of Firstobject and there they are advisisng investors to go buy their own company
Now if that isnt crooked and deceptive practise what is?
Concurrent Infra, Octant Interactive, Firstobject Technologies ,G K Aggarwal and Firstcall Equity Advisors
Two highly colourful and controversial small firms concurrent infrastructure (caught lying about works contract in sikkim) and octant interactive were previously connected with G K Aggarwal the famous CA who is promoter director and a lot else in 5 listed companies all having registered offices in the same room and all witnessing sharp price jumps
CONCURRENT (INDIA) INFRASTRUCTURE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531261 Quarter ending : December 2007
Shareholding belonging to the category :
"Promoter and Promoter Group"
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Giriraj Kishore Agrawal 15,200 0.11
2 Tanu G Agrawal 500 0.00
Total 15,700 0.12
OCTANT INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGIES LTD.-$
Scrip Code : 590090 Quarter ending : September 2008
Shareholding belonging to the category :
"Promoter and Promoter Group"
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Keystone Stockfin Pvt Ltd 13,000 0.12
2 Keystone Stockfin Pvt Ltd 309,500 2.81
3 Kushagra Software Ltd 132,850 1.21
4 L V Ramnarayan 1,500,000 13.64
5 Pradeep Dhanuka 341,900 3.11
6 Prahlad Rai Inani 459,300 4.18
7 Rajkishor Agarwal 141,600 1.29
8 Sarita Inani 64,900 0.59
9 Tanu G Agarwal 500 0.00
10 Tanu G Agarwal 35,500 0.32
11 Tanu Agarwal 95,400 0.87
12 Tanu Healthcare Ltd 1,120,000 10.19
13 Tanu Healthcare Ltd 60,600 0.55
14 Romy Realty Pvt Ltd 384,400 3.50
15 Trask Infrastructure Pvt Ltd 381,800 3.47
16 Vidhata Securities Pvt Ltd 16,300 0.15
17 Vidhata Securities Pvt Ltd 469,220 4.27
Total 5,526,770 50.26
the rest are probably aggarwal owned pvt companies
In fact The Registered office of Octant interactive then called kushal software was ........... E 109 Crystal Plaza New link Road Andheri
Another common factor is Firstcall India Equity Advisors Pvt
OCTANT INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGIES LTD
Scrip Code : 590090 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 First Call India Equity Advisors Pv 735,618 3.72
2 Iqms Software Ltd 745,264 3.77
3 Insutech India Ltd 202,920 1.03
4 Sooraj C K 206,000 1.04
5 Rajeev Viswambharan Suseela 202,000 1.02
6 Rajkumar Amarlal Hasija 200,000 1.01
7 Bahuda Agro Tech (p) Ltd 806,722 4.08
Total 3,098,524 15.66
Iqms is the old name of Firstobject technologies and Insutech India new name is Rockon Fintech controlled and promoted by Giriraj Aggarwal
CONCURRENT (INDIA) INFRASTRUCTURE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531261 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Firstcall India Equity Advisors Pvt Ltd 2,290,932 5.32
2 Mandava Ravindra 1,571,026 3.65
3 M Narendra Babu 983,714 2.28
4 Ravi Naveen 1,398,571 3.25
5 Bathula Venkateshwararao 1,430,432 3.32
6 Nandigam Venkata Vijaya Bhaskar 1,531,875 3.56
7 Myneni Hemanth 655,000 1.52
8 Mandava Sindhura 1,579,881 3.67
9 Kamal Podda 446,925 1.04
Total 11,888,356 27.61
CONCURRENT (INDIA) INFRASTRUCTURE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531261 Quarter ending : December 2007
Shareholding belonging to the category :
"Promoter and Promoter Group"
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Giriraj Kishore Agrawal 15,200 0.11
2 Tanu G Agrawal 500 0.00
Total 15,700 0.12
OCTANT INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGIES LTD.-$
Scrip Code : 590090 Quarter ending : September 2008
Shareholding belonging to the category :
"Promoter and Promoter Group"
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Keystone Stockfin Pvt Ltd 13,000 0.12
2 Keystone Stockfin Pvt Ltd 309,500 2.81
3 Kushagra Software Ltd 132,850 1.21
4 L V Ramnarayan 1,500,000 13.64
5 Pradeep Dhanuka 341,900 3.11
6 Prahlad Rai Inani 459,300 4.18
7 Rajkishor Agarwal 141,600 1.29
8 Sarita Inani 64,900 0.59
9 Tanu G Agarwal 500 0.00
10 Tanu G Agarwal 35,500 0.32
11 Tanu Agarwal 95,400 0.87
12 Tanu Healthcare Ltd 1,120,000 10.19
13 Tanu Healthcare Ltd 60,600 0.55
14 Romy Realty Pvt Ltd 384,400 3.50
15 Trask Infrastructure Pvt Ltd 381,800 3.47
16 Vidhata Securities Pvt Ltd 16,300 0.15
17 Vidhata Securities Pvt Ltd 469,220 4.27
Total 5,526,770 50.26
the rest are probably aggarwal owned pvt companies
In fact The Registered office of Octant interactive then called kushal software was ........... E 109 Crystal Plaza New link Road Andheri
Another common factor is Firstcall India Equity Advisors Pvt
OCTANT INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGIES LTD
Scrip Code : 590090 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 First Call India Equity Advisors Pv 735,618 3.72
2 Iqms Software Ltd 745,264 3.77
3 Insutech India Ltd 202,920 1.03
4 Sooraj C K 206,000 1.04
5 Rajeev Viswambharan Suseela 202,000 1.02
6 Rajkumar Amarlal Hasija 200,000 1.01
7 Bahuda Agro Tech (p) Ltd 806,722 4.08
Total 3,098,524 15.66
Iqms is the old name of Firstobject technologies and Insutech India new name is Rockon Fintech controlled and promoted by Giriraj Aggarwal
CONCURRENT (INDIA) INFRASTRUCTURE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531261 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Firstcall India Equity Advisors Pvt Ltd 2,290,932 5.32
2 Mandava Ravindra 1,571,026 3.65
3 M Narendra Babu 983,714 2.28
4 Ravi Naveen 1,398,571 3.25
5 Bathula Venkateshwararao 1,430,432 3.32
6 Nandigam Venkata Vijaya Bhaskar 1,531,875 3.56
7 Myneni Hemanth 655,000 1.52
8 Mandava Sindhura 1,579,881 3.67
9 Kamal Podda 446,925 1.04
Total 11,888,356 27.61
Krishna Deep Trade and Santowin .......... The 50 market lot wonders
Here are two more examples of share movement that has nothing to do with fundamentals and everything to do with other possible illegal reasons
Both stocks can be traded in market lots of 50
ie you can only buyor sell 50 shares in one trade not less
Krishna deep has gone up 1000 percent from 11 to 118
Santowin has gone up 1000 percent too from 20 to 227
Thres no reason for either of these to rise no change in mangement or value unlocking or sale of land or new plant nothing
promoters holding in krishna deep has come down form 35 to 4 percent and in case of Santowin from 60 to 14 percent
Santowin has only 287 shareholders Krishna deep only 285
Both stocks have gone up on thin volumes
Both stocks can be traded in market lots of 50
ie you can only buyor sell 50 shares in one trade not less
Krishna deep has gone up 1000 percent from 11 to 118
Santowin has gone up 1000 percent too from 20 to 227
Thres no reason for either of these to rise no change in mangement or value unlocking or sale of land or new plant nothing
promoters holding in krishna deep has come down form 35 to 4 percent and in case of Santowin from 60 to 14 percent
Santowin has only 287 shareholders Krishna deep only 285
Both stocks have gone up on thin volumes
Artillegence bio-innovations Stocknet international Jagamohan reddy connection
Stocknet international
Artillegence bio-innovations ltd
Surprsingly 2 companies with different directors and and shareholders share the exact same registered address
Amritdham Suite No. 5 & 6, Nityanand Nagar, Bakultala,Howrah 711109
they also have the same auditor T N DATTA and sons who incidentally isthe auditor for two more calcutta companies known for extreme honesty Austral coke and Gremach infra
The directors of both companies though are completely different
Jagati publications was incorporated in jan 2006
In 2007 and 2008 14 unknown loss making companies including stocknet and artelligence bio made investments of 45 crores in jagati publications ie they bought shares for 45 crores
Source http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/121270/cover-story/jagan-mohan-reddy-the-prince-of-cash.html?page=1
"Under the guise of buying shares, they have paid kickbacks to Jagan," alleges TDP President N. Chandrababu Naidu. "Otherwise, how else can Jagati Publications allot shares at such high premium within months of incorporation?"
In 2008, auditing firm Deloitte estimated the worth of the publications, which owns the powerful 26-edition Telugu newspaper chain Sakshi with a total circulation of 12 lakh copies, at Rs 3,500 crore. It is odd that the balance sheets of 14 companies which invested Rs 42.56 crore in 2007 and 2008 in Jagati show an accumulated loss of Rs 68.95 lakh.
The main ones - Stocknet International and Artillegence Bio Innovation-are listed on the Bombay Stock Exchange and the other 12 are shareholders in the 2 listed companies ......their total accumulated loss (net worth)is nearly 70 lakhs yet they had 45 crores to invest in Jaati Publications (owner of sakshi newspapers and Sakshi channel )
These include Delton Exim Pvt. Ltd, Kirti Electro Systems, Bay Inland Finance, Bhaskar Fund Management Ltd, Cliftons Pearson Export and Agencies Ltd, Ganga Builders Ltd, Ispat Sheets Ltd, Gromore Fund Management Company Ltd, New Outlook Securities, Super Finance Ltd, Shakti Ispat Production Pvt. Ltd and Shivalaxmi Exports Ltd.
Interestinly Laffan software and conrad telefilms 2 of the 4 assam based companies banned by sebi from accessing the market also held a stake in artelligence bio in 2008
The bank accounts of these companies are in the Gol Park branch of HDFC Bank and the Baliganj branch of the South Indian Bank Ltd in Kolkata.
Several of these firms have been or are being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Board of India for unfair trade practices and fraud.
Friday, 15 April 2011
NCL Research
Another Other Financial Services company which has shot up without any paticular reason from 27 to 209
any increase in profits ? any unlocking of val;ue ? any sale of land ? NOTHING
Here is the topline and bottomline
2009 - 10 2008 - 09 2007 - 08 2006 - 07 2005 - 06
Revenue 3.59 9.57 0.70 0.02 0.02
NP 0.06 0.07 0.01 0.00 0.00
Management - NCL Research
Name Designation
Vijay J Poddar Chairman and Managing director
Giriraj Kishore Agarwal Independent Director
Gautam Bose Independent Director
Manish Baid Whole Time Director
Laxmi Narayan Sharma Independent Director
how independant is giriraj kishore aggarwal well whichever company he is associated wih (be they the 5 in one room companies) or companies such as ncl they just shoot up for no paticular reason
In 2020 SEBI MAY wake up and find out there was circular trading there in 2030 it may give a fine of 1lakh
ok we have independant directors now lets see who owns 10 percent of this company ........
NCL RESEARCH & FINANCIAL SERVICES LTD.
Scrip Code : 530557 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Lily Abasan Pvt Ltd 39,700 1.17
2 Swpanpuri Tradelink Pvt Ltd 40,000 1.18
3 Mini Builders Pvt Ltd 42,500 1.25
4 Mangal Keshav Securities Ltd 63,900 1.88
5 Uttam Commodities Pvt Ltd 65,000 1.91
6 Kohinoor Vincome Pvt Ltd 67,384 1.98
7 Manimundra Vincom Pvt Ltd 54,000 1.59
8 Right Aid Consultants Pvt Ltd 86,000 2.53
9 Rupak Develppers Pvt Ltd 80,304 2.36
10 Welldone Commodities Pvt Ltd 95,000 2.79
11 Laurel Securities Pvt Ltd 52,000 1.53
12 Silverpearl Trading Pvt Ltd 153,257 4.51
13 Saikat Tradelik Pvt Ltd 165,000 4.85
14 East India Securities Ltd 227,500 6.69
15 SMC Global Securities Ltd 336,400 9.89
16 H Mahaveer 35,000 1.03
17 Amrik Singh Nagpal 36,000 1.06
18 Pravin Vasant Mehta 45,978 1.35
Total 1,684,923 49.56
with shareholders like smc and directors like aggarwal is it any wonder it moved from 27 to 209 and is now in continious upper circuits of 2 percent ?
at least BSE kept the circuits down to 2
any increase in profits ? any unlocking of val;ue ? any sale of land ? NOTHING
Here is the topline and bottomline
2009 - 10 2008 - 09 2007 - 08 2006 - 07 2005 - 06
Revenue 3.59 9.57 0.70 0.02 0.02
NP 0.06 0.07 0.01 0.00 0.00
Management - NCL Research
Name Designation
Vijay J Poddar Chairman and Managing director
Giriraj Kishore Agarwal Independent Director
Gautam Bose Independent Director
Manish Baid Whole Time Director
Laxmi Narayan Sharma Independent Director
how independant is giriraj kishore aggarwal well whichever company he is associated wih (be they the 5 in one room companies) or companies such as ncl they just shoot up for no paticular reason
In 2020 SEBI MAY wake up and find out there was circular trading there in 2030 it may give a fine of 1lakh
ok we have independant directors now lets see who owns 10 percent of this company ........
NCL RESEARCH & FINANCIAL SERVICES LTD.
Scrip Code : 530557 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Lily Abasan Pvt Ltd 39,700 1.17
2 Swpanpuri Tradelink Pvt Ltd 40,000 1.18
3 Mini Builders Pvt Ltd 42,500 1.25
4 Mangal Keshav Securities Ltd 63,900 1.88
5 Uttam Commodities Pvt Ltd 65,000 1.91
6 Kohinoor Vincome Pvt Ltd 67,384 1.98
7 Manimundra Vincom Pvt Ltd 54,000 1.59
8 Right Aid Consultants Pvt Ltd 86,000 2.53
9 Rupak Develppers Pvt Ltd 80,304 2.36
10 Welldone Commodities Pvt Ltd 95,000 2.79
11 Laurel Securities Pvt Ltd 52,000 1.53
12 Silverpearl Trading Pvt Ltd 153,257 4.51
13 Saikat Tradelik Pvt Ltd 165,000 4.85
14 East India Securities Ltd 227,500 6.69
15 SMC Global Securities Ltd 336,400 9.89
16 H Mahaveer 35,000 1.03
17 Amrik Singh Nagpal 36,000 1.06
18 Pravin Vasant Mehta 45,978 1.35
Total 1,684,923 49.56
with shareholders like smc and directors like aggarwal is it any wonder it moved from 27 to 209 and is now in continious upper circuits of 2 percent ?
at least BSE kept the circuits down to 2
Wednesday, 13 April 2011
Prajay Engineering .........Lost
Like the series lost and like its 2009 accounts
Prajay engineers is a small hyderabad based company which till 2008 was the darling of FIIs
Then Satyam happened
And something equally strange happend .......... here is what happened in the companies ownn words
“After the year end, basic records relating to sale agreements/ revenue and construction expenses of one of the Projects of property development were lost at the site office, Vishakhapatnam. The company “lost” records for a project worth 40% of its annual revenues at the site office.
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_where-corp-governance-was-questioned_1220249
NET Profits have Plunged and never looked up
in Cr.) 2009 -10 2008 - 09 2007 - 08 2006 - 07 2005 - 06
Net Profit 2.03 -0.99 102.87 77.25 22.73
After Deloitte Haskins & Sells first raised the issue auditors have continiously ben issuing limited reviews about Non provision for sundry debtors who havent paid for more then 6months and loans and advances not repaid for more then 6months
management rarely bother to reply to these and the reviews keep appearing
The company has had the same auditor for nearly 4 years (or more) a Mr S V RANGAN suddenly between 2007 and 2008 AGMs they decided to get one of the BIG FOUR Deloitte Haskins & Sells as auditors ........ not too surprsing;ly after a few months Deloitte Haskins & Sells decided to quit ..... after satyam no one wanted to be stuck with companies who "lost" their accounts
the company hired mr rangan again in 2009 he is till today the auditor
the shareholding too has changed dramatically
heres the shareholding as in dec 2008
PRAJAY ENGINEERS SYNDICATE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531746 Quarter ending : December 2007
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Copthall Maritius Investment Ltd 457,701 1.66
2 Citigroup Global Markets (Mauritius) Pvt Ltd 1,217,640 4.41
3 ABN Amro Bank N.V. London Branch 1,310,310 4.75
4 Merrill Lynch Capital Markets Espana S.A.S.V. 1,351,863 4.90
5 Arisaig Partners (Asia) PTE Ltd A/c Arisaig India 1,701,727 6.17
6 General Electric Pension Trust 812,719 2.95
7 GE Investments Group Trust Emerging Markets Equity 335,872 1.22
8 Merrill Lynch International Investment Funds 522,117 1.89
9 MSAM Sub A/c Ind 285,700 1.04
10 Morgan Stanley Investments Mauritius Ltd 645,445 2.34
11 Morgan Stanley Mauritius Company Ltd 599,704 2.17
12 LB India Holding Cayman II Ltd 1,006,146 3.65
13 Swiss Finance Corporation Mauritius Ltd 339,254 1.23
14 Goldman Sachs Investments Mauritius India Ltd 1,066,159 3.86
15 S Madhuri Reddy 368,000 1.33
16 V Smitha Reddy 360,000 1.30
17 Deutsche Bank AG London 3,349,037 12.14
18 Goldman Sachs Investment Mauritius Ltd 1,116,345 4.05
19 Copthall Mauritius Investments Ltd 601,954 2.18
20 ACACIA Partners LP 334,999 1.21
Total 17,782,692 64.45
most of the holdings were from mauritius based companies
this is the latest share holding
PRAJAY ENGINEERS SYNDICATE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531746 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Copthall Mauritius Inv Ltd 1,285,891 2.18
2 Merrill Lynch Capital Markets Espana S.A.S.V. 1,877,975 3.18
3 Ultimate Money Makers India Pvt Ltd 683,760 1.16
4 Il & FS Securities Services ltd 975,650 1.65
5 Nandi Ravinder Reddy 7,945,313 13.47
6 Merlin Securities Ltd 5,336,134 9.04
7 Surbhai Saroj Kumar Jain 1,000,000 1.69
8 Deutsche Securities Mauritius Ltd 2,530,998 4.29
9 Money Tree Media Ventures Pvt Ltd 1,910,000 3.24
Total 23,545,721 39.90
most have left
the price ..........w ell it went down formm 440 odd to 15 and unlike most stocks it hasnt staged any meaningful recovery
Prajay engineers is a small hyderabad based company which till 2008 was the darling of FIIs
Then Satyam happened
And something equally strange happend .......... here is what happened in the companies ownn words
“After the year end, basic records relating to sale agreements/ revenue and construction expenses of one of the Projects of property development were lost at the site office, Vishakhapatnam. The company “lost” records for a project worth 40% of its annual revenues at the site office.
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_where-corp-governance-was-questioned_1220249
NET Profits have Plunged and never looked up
in Cr.) 2009 -10 2008 - 09 2007 - 08 2006 - 07 2005 - 06
Net Profit 2.03 -0.99 102.87 77.25 22.73
After Deloitte Haskins & Sells first raised the issue auditors have continiously ben issuing limited reviews about Non provision for sundry debtors who havent paid for more then 6months and loans and advances not repaid for more then 6months
management rarely bother to reply to these and the reviews keep appearing
The company has had the same auditor for nearly 4 years (or more) a Mr S V RANGAN suddenly between 2007 and 2008 AGMs they decided to get one of the BIG FOUR Deloitte Haskins & Sells as auditors ........ not too surprsing;ly after a few months Deloitte Haskins & Sells decided to quit ..... after satyam no one wanted to be stuck with companies who "lost" their accounts
the company hired mr rangan again in 2009 he is till today the auditor
the shareholding too has changed dramatically
heres the shareholding as in dec 2008
PRAJAY ENGINEERS SYNDICATE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531746 Quarter ending : December 2007
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Copthall Maritius Investment Ltd 457,701 1.66
2 Citigroup Global Markets (Mauritius) Pvt Ltd 1,217,640 4.41
3 ABN Amro Bank N.V. London Branch 1,310,310 4.75
4 Merrill Lynch Capital Markets Espana S.A.S.V. 1,351,863 4.90
5 Arisaig Partners (Asia) PTE Ltd A/c Arisaig India 1,701,727 6.17
6 General Electric Pension Trust 812,719 2.95
7 GE Investments Group Trust Emerging Markets Equity 335,872 1.22
8 Merrill Lynch International Investment Funds 522,117 1.89
9 MSAM Sub A/c Ind 285,700 1.04
10 Morgan Stanley Investments Mauritius Ltd 645,445 2.34
11 Morgan Stanley Mauritius Company Ltd 599,704 2.17
12 LB India Holding Cayman II Ltd 1,006,146 3.65
13 Swiss Finance Corporation Mauritius Ltd 339,254 1.23
14 Goldman Sachs Investments Mauritius India Ltd 1,066,159 3.86
15 S Madhuri Reddy 368,000 1.33
16 V Smitha Reddy 360,000 1.30
17 Deutsche Bank AG London 3,349,037 12.14
18 Goldman Sachs Investment Mauritius Ltd 1,116,345 4.05
19 Copthall Mauritius Investments Ltd 601,954 2.18
20 ACACIA Partners LP 334,999 1.21
Total 17,782,692 64.45
most of the holdings were from mauritius based companies
this is the latest share holding
PRAJAY ENGINEERS SYNDICATE LTD.
Scrip Code : 531746 Quarter ending : December 2010
Shareholding belonging to the category
"Public" and holding more than 1% of the Total No.of Shares
Sl. No. Name of the Shareholder No. of Shares Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1 Copthall Mauritius Inv Ltd 1,285,891 2.18
2 Merrill Lynch Capital Markets Espana S.A.S.V. 1,877,975 3.18
3 Ultimate Money Makers India Pvt Ltd 683,760 1.16
4 Il & FS Securities Services ltd 975,650 1.65
5 Nandi Ravinder Reddy 7,945,313 13.47
6 Merlin Securities Ltd 5,336,134 9.04
7 Surbhai Saroj Kumar Jain 1,000,000 1.69
8 Deutsche Securities Mauritius Ltd 2,530,998 4.29
9 Money Tree Media Ventures Pvt Ltd 1,910,000 3.24
Total 23,545,721 39.90
most have left
the price ..........w ell it went down formm 440 odd to 15 and unlike most stocks it hasnt staged any meaningful recovery